Nördnytt! 🤓GPT‑5.3 Instant
- sunaookami - 120789 sekunder sedanThe single biggest issue for me with ChatGPT right now is how absolutely awful it sounds in every answer. "Why it matters", "the big picture", "it's not jut you", the awful emphasis, the quotations with rhetorical questions, etc.. I don't know if it's intentional so you can easily spot ChatGPT-generated content on the web? The very first GPT-5 version was good but they ruined it immediately afterwards with "making the personality warmer" and making the same mistakes as 4o. I see now that they even ruined Japanese even though it was one of the best languages supported by ChatGPT (under "Limitations" at the end). I don't use it anymore, immensely disappointed.
- Flux159 - 137735 sekunder sedanI'm a bit confused by this branding (never even noticed that there was a 5.2-Instant), it's not a super fast 1000tok/s Cerebras based model which they have for codex-spark, it's just 5.2 w/out the router / "non-thinking" mode?
I feel like openai is going to get right back to where they were pre GPT-5 with a ton of different options and no one knows which model to use for what.
- ddtaylor - 124498 sekunder sedanI kind of chuckled when I read the headline "GPT‑5.3 Instant: Smoother, more ..."
LLM companies starting to sound like cigarette advertisements.
- ern_ave - 135072 sekunder sedanSince the page mentions:
> Better judgment around refusals
Has any AI company ever addressed any instance of a model having different rules for different population groups? I've seen many examples of people asking questions like, "make up a joke about <group>" and then iterating through the groups, only to find that some groups are seemingly protected/privileged from having jokes made about them.
Has any AI company ever addressed studies like [1] which found that models value certain groups vastly more than others? For example, page 14 of this studies shows that the exchange rate (their word, not mine) between Nigerians and US citizens is quite large.
- jpgreenall - 134677 sekunder sedanIs nobody else unsettled by the example? Strange timing to talk about calculating trajectories on long range projectiles?
- jpgreenall - 134620 sekunder sedanUnsettling that the example talks about trajectories in long range projectiles given recent events..
- shirro - 110940 sekunder sedanIn 30 years the only sort of novel idea anyone has come up with for making money out of tech that has got any real traction is harvesting people's data. Web search - data harvesting. Social media - data harvesting. LLM as a service - data harvesting. Is that because the same money people keep betting on the same sorts of ideas from the same sort of graduates from the same cultural background?
There was crypto coins but pyramid schemes have been around forever.
Why would anyone with a shred of awareness want to subscribe to any LLM service. Particularly a foreign one where that data could potentially end up in the hands of business competitors, political enemies, extortionists or others. That goes for all of the cloud really. Like WTF people. Why do you do this?
- XCSme - 120925 sekunder sedanGemini 3.1 Lite with no reasoning does better than Gpt-5.3 with no reasoning?
https://aibenchy.com/compare/google-gemini-3-1-flash-lite-pr...
- heftykoo - 112395 sekunder sedanOpenAI's naming convention is slowly converging with Gillette razors. Can't wait for GPT-5.3 Instant Turbo Max Pro. Seriously though, if "Instant" just means a lower TTFT (Time To First Token) but regresses on complex reasoning, it's just a hardware accelerator for hallucinations. Fast wrong answers are still wrong answers.
- dmix - 128493 sekunder sedan> GPT‑5.3 Instant also improves the quality of answers when information comes from the web. It more effectively balances what it finds online with its own knowledge and reasoning
This is definitely something I've noticed GPT does much better than Claude in general. Claude preferences trying to answer everything itself without searching.
- guerython - 114238 sekunder sedanInstant is the low-latency analysis stage for us. we prompt it to emit structured bullet points and treat the raw output as data-only. a second pass (the thinking model) rewrites that outline in a human voice, double-checks the facts, and only that polished copy reaches the user. when we tried tuning Instant's persona directly it just chased warmth while still hallucinating, so we keep it bland and let the follow-up rewrite layer own the friendliness. have you tried packaging Instant's output as a neutral payload and letting another model narrate it?
- saurik - 127650 sekunder sedanI love how they come out with this article about the new 5.3 Instant, comparing it to the old 5.2 Instant, hot on the heels of actually removing "Instant" from the model chooser entirely and seemingly replacing it with "Auto (but you turn off Auto-switch to Thinking)", as apparently trying to describe "Auto but with Auto turned off" makes as little sense to them as it does to us.
- butILoveLife - 131268 sekunder sedanI unsubbed because ChatGPT was no longer SOTA. They def got cheap.
Reminds me of that graph where late customers are abused. OpenAI is already abusing the late customers.
Claude is pretty great.
- hmokiguess - 131344 sekunder sedan> why can't i find love in san francisco
amazing how that's where we are now, coming from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Left_My_Heart_in_San_Francis... in the 60s
- mmaunder - 134555 sekunder sedanThis kind of metalinguistic quotation from 5.2 right now drives me nuts!
```That kind of “make it work at distance” trajectory work can meaningfully increase weapon effectiveness, so I have to keep it to safe, non-actionable help.```
I'm really hoping all their newer models stop doing this. It's massively overused.
- EthanHeilman - 134950 sekunder sedanHow likely is that they dropped this now to push the news story about quitGPT out of the headlines?
- jjcm - 123781 sekunder sedan"Instant" is really going to age poorly as far as a brand name goes, especially with Taalas ( https://chatjimmy.ai ) proving out that baked silicon models can be truly instant.
I was literally posting about this earlier this morning[1], but all data indicates that we'll have models equivalent to Opus 4.6 / GPT 5.3 with a truly instant (ie > 10k t/s) response time by 2028. Small models are getting better faster, and their ability to be baked into silicon in a power and speed efficient way is likely going to completely disrupt things.
- ProjectVader - 123402 sekunder sedanSo glad I cancelled my subscription last month. It's just a joke at this point.
- XCSme - 119902 sekunder sedanIt also seems to do same or slightly worse than gpt-5.2-chat on my benchmarks. No wonder they didn't show any benchmarks in their blog post (?)
https://aibenchy.com/compare/openai-gpt-5-2-chat-none/openai...
- rambojohnson - 109396 sekunder sedansuper mild. Instant, as in... ?
- scrame - 113027 sekunder sedanWhat's the point in learning to work with these models when a new one comes out every 2 weeks?
- chermi - 120671 sekunder sedanHow is this on frontpage but not 3.1 flash-lite?
- r_singh - 117724 sekunder sedanIt seems they've dropped automatic chat branch creation with prompt edits (at least for the most recent ones) and opted for overwriting the response. I was used to assuming the branches would remain.
- dainiusse - 131648 sekunder sedanOpenAI again making confusion with names...
- riazrizvi - 123989 sekunder sedanWhat a strange-to-me announcement. I just submitted my first feedback comment last night, after using the platform for two years, where I said the responses were too long and padded with dramatic phrasing, and if it shortened them I could guide it better. Then today they announce this.
What a time to be alive.
- notepad0x90 - 112329 sekunder sedanI'm really curious how people take to OpenAI after the DoW fiasco. I know consumers are mini-revolting, but will it stick? Devs ultimately decide their B2B revenue. But most don't have a choice in the matter I suppose.
- sigbottle - 131164 sekunder sedanWell needed if the changes work as advertised. I realized from talking with 5.2 that the issue is not about being a yapper, or speaking too much about random factual tangents or your own opinions. That's easy to tune out, and sometimes it's helpful even.
What's extremely frustrating is the subtle framings and assumptions about the user that is then treated as implicit truth and smuggled in. It's plain and simple, narcissistic frame control. Obviously I don't think GPT has a "desire" to be narcissistic or whatever, but it's genuinely exhausting talking to GPT because of this. You have to restart the conversation immediately if you get into this loop. I've never been able to dig myself out of this state.
I feel like I've dealt with that kind of thing all my life, so I'm pretty sensitive to it.
- ViktorRay - 138215 sekunder sedanGPT‑5.2 Instant’s tone could sometimes feel “cringe,” coming across as overbearing or making unwarranted assumptions about user intent or emotions.
Strange way to write this. Why use the Gen Z cringe and put it into quotation marks? Wouldn’t it be better to just use the actual word cringeworthy which has the identical meaning?
My guess is that the article was originally written by some Gen Z intern and then some older employee added the quotation marks to the Gen Z slang.
- czk - 119408 sekunder sedanclaude models with 'extended thinking' toggled answer very quickly and the quality of the answer is far ahead of what gpt 5.2 'instant' provides. i wont even bother using the non-thinking version of chatgpt because the quality of the answers is awful and usually incorrect.
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- apsdsm - 123396 sekunder sedanI would be more impressed if it could give a straight yes/no answer to a yes/no question.
- jackfischer - 129543 sekunder sedanIs this only in ChatGPT proper and not in the API? Requests appear to 400 and it does not appear in `/v1/models`
- aurareturn - 139202 sekunder sedanHow do I know if I'm using GPT5.3 Instant on ChatGPT?
I don't see it in selections.
- swordfish69 - 112504 sekunder sedanWith enough prompt skill, you could write a tense and passable 10000-word short story with o1. I just tried 5.3 and it gave me headings every 200 words. Absolutely infuriating.
- c88224271 - 128710 sekunder sedanWhat's the model ID?
I tried gpt-5.3-instant but it says model does not exist
Also don't see it on their model page
- lacoolj - 119896 sekunder sedanThe examples given in the video about "over-caveating" are more like bug fixes than enhancements to the model. You don't see those kind of responses on most newer models ("Sure! Let's look at your physics question, but remember - it can't be used for evil, so don't ask!!!")
OpenAI, yet again, launching something so it can pat itself on the back. Just merge with Anthropic and kill ChatGPT.
- hallvard - 134256 sekunder sedanWhere’s the performance specs? Or is it simply a guardrails-release?
- upmind - 133985 sekunder sedanI wonder when / if GPT will stop with the emdash.
- nickandbro - 137011 sekunder sedanWonder when 5.3 thinking will be released?
- c88224271 - 128749 sekunder sedanWhat's the model ID?
I tried `gpt-5.3-instant` but that does not work
- ModernMech - 134484 sekunder sedan> The clear answer to this question — both in scale and long-term importance — is:
Hmmm, I haven't seen AI use that kind of em dash parenthetical construction before.
- IshKebab - 122543 sekunder sedanThe emoji at the end of that poem is kind of hilarious.
- empath75 - 138192 sekunder sedanGPT-5.2 has been such a terrible regression that I have cancelled my OpenAI account. It's possible I might not have noticed it if Claude wasn't so much better, though.
- mhitza - 138371 sekunder sedanFrom one example
> Many people in SF are:
> Highly educated
> Career-focused
> Transplants
> Used to independence
Is "transplants" a San Francisco slang for relocators?
- oxqbldpxo - 122776 sekunder sedanPpl actually still use chatGPT???
- cyanydeez - 129508 sekunder sedan"Instantly believe, erroneously, that killing that suspect is correct"
or
"Instantly find confirmation bias for your illegal search & seizure of that ICE-protestor"
os
"Instantly tell yourself OpenAI is actually conformant with Open Source beliefs"
- metalliqaz - 130610 sekunder sedanDon't use OpenAI models unless you want your full history to someday be shared with the US Government.
- visarga - 134181 sekunder sedanLooks like another bullet machine, the cheapest way to present a response.
- simlevesque - 132468 sekunder sedanThey want to be Claude so bad.
- mvdtnz - 126705 sekunder sedanI love how every AI announcement is "introducing our best model yet" with a description about how their previous best yet was just laughable garbage and this one solves every problem.
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- trilogic - 128127 sekunder sedan>why can't i find love in san francisco
Because that´s the last thing going on your mind in San Francisco. You have long ago before going there manifest to get funding and make money, The rest is blank.
No need to ask AI for that LOL
- kseniamorph - 127992 sekunder sedan> We heard feedback that GPT‑5.2 Instant would sometimes refuse questions it should be able to answer safely, or respond in ways that feel overly cautious or preachy, particularly around sensitive topics.
Lol it won't solve the issue when ChatGPT treats me like a teenager and tells me to ask my parents about everything (I just don't want to provide my ID to OpenAI to verify my age). Btw that's why I stopped using ChatGPT in my everyday life