Arm AGI CPU
- tombert - 2584 sekunder sedanThe name of this CPU is bordering on securities fraud. When people see the term "AGI" now, they are assuming "Artificial General Intelligence", not "Agentic AI Infrastructure".
Of course people don't realize that, and people will buy ARM stock thinking they've cracked AGI. The people running Arm absolutely know this, so this name is what we in the industry call a "lie".
- aurareturn - 5240 sekunder sedanThis is just a Neoverse CPU that Arm will manufacture themselves at TSMC and then sell directly to customers.
It isn't an "AI" CPU. There is nothing AI about it. There is nothing about it that makes it more AI than Graviton, Epyc, Xeon, etc.
This was already revealed in the Qualcomm vs Arm lawsuit a few years ago. Qualcomm accused Arm of planning to sell their CPUs directly instead of just licensing. Arm's CEO at the time denied it. Qualcomm ends up being right.
I wrote a post here on why Arm is doing this and why now: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47032932
- moritzwarhier - 214 sekunder sedanI miss the all-capitals ARM spelling.
Seeing "Arm AGI" spelled out on a page with an "arm" logo sounds and looks super cheesy.
But it maybe it's actually a good fit for the societal revolution driven by AGI, comparable to the one driven by the DOT.com RevoLut.Ion. (dot com).
Anyways, it sounds like an A.R.M. branded version of the AppleSilicon revolution?
But maybe that's just my shallow categorization.
- steve1977 - 5513 sekunder sedanI think the interesting bit is actually this:
For the first time in our more than 35-year history, Arm is delivering its own silicon products
- rafram - 4846 sekunder sedanAGI (Agentic AI Infrastructure) is joining CSS (Compute Subsystems) in their lineup, apparently. Who’s naming this stuff?
- throwa356262 - 10002 sekunder sedanAGI = Agentic AI Infrastructure
In case you were thinking about some other abbreviation...
- mkl - 6620 sekunder sedanThis is like naming your kid World President Smith.
- RealityVoid - 10891 sekunder sedanArm apparently now sells their own CPU's.
- yabutlivnWoods - 7443 sekunder sedanHow fun would it be if due to improved chips handling more model state RAM needs are reduced and Sama cannot make all those RAM purchases he booked?
VC without a degree who has no grasp of hardware engineering failed up when all he had to do was noodle numbers in an Excel sheet.
He is so far behind the hardware scene he thinks its sitting still and RAM requirements will be a nice linear path to AGI. Not if new chips optimized for model streaming crater RAM needs.
Hilarious how last decades software geniuses are being revealed as incompetent finance engineers whose success was all due to ZIRP offering endless runway.
- ahmedfromtunis - 2613 sekunder sedanPoor TSMC (and ASML)! They were already struggling with capacity to fulfill orders from their established customers. With ARM now joining the them, I don't know they're going to cope.
Edit: They new CPU will be build with the soon-to-be-former leading edge process of 3nm lithography.
- bt1a - 3120 sekunder sedanOh wow already in use by Meta, OpenAI, and more ?? https://www.arm.com/products/cloud-datacenter/arm-agi-cpu/ec...
The TDP to memory bandwidth& capacity ratio form these blades is in a class of its own, yes?
- papichulo2023 - 7483 sekunder sedanWhat does "Built for rack-scale agentic efficiency" even means?
- einpoklum - 433 sekunder sedanIf I try to cut through the hype, it seems the main features of this processor, or rather processor + memory controller + system architecture, is < 100 ns for accessing anything in system memory and 6 GB/sec for each of a large-ish number of cores, so a (much?) higher overall bandwidth than what we would see in a comparable Intel x86_64 machine.
Am I right or am I misunderstanding?
- bobmcnamara - 2951 sekunder sedan6GB/s/core
That's...not much right? Maybe it's a lot times N-cores? But I really hope each individual core isn't limited to that.
Edit: 17 minutes to sum RAM?
- vsgherzi - 1811 sekunder sedanis this a cpu that's meant for AI training or is it more for serving inference? I don't quite get why I would want to buy an arm CPU over a nvidia GPU for ai applications.
- oxag3n - 1086 sekunder sedanWhy not ASI? They aim too low.
- midnightdiesel - 4240 sekunder sedanWhat a product name choice! I wasn’t expecting ARM to pivot to selling snake oil.
- josemanuel - 3791 sekunder sedanInteresting that Jensen Huang joined in the congratulations for this new product!
- twostorytower - 4562 sekunder sedanAnd the stock is down >2% today
- torusle - 3665 sekunder sedanARM riding the "everything is AI" train.
So sad.
- myhf - 2671 sekunder sedanfinally, a CPU capable of making API calls to cloud providers
- SilverElfin - 6067 sekunder sedanCall this an “AGI CPU” just feels like the most out of touch, terrible marketing possible. Maybe this is unfair but it makes me think ARM as a whole is incompetent just because it is so tasteless.
> Arm has additionally partnered with Supermicro on a liquid-cooled 200kW design capable of housing 336 Arm AGI CPUs for over 45,000 cores.
Also just bad timing on trying to brag about a partnership with Supermicro, after a founder was just indicted on charges of smuggling Nvidia GPUs. Just bizarre to mention them at all.
- rvz - 7307 sekunder sedanMeta are heavily invested in building their own chips with ARM to reduce their reliance on Nvidia as everyone is going after their (Nvidia) data center revenues.
This is why Meta acquired a chip startup for this reason [0] months ago.
[0] https://www.reuters.com/business/meta-buy-chip-startup-rivos...
- nurettin - 7809 sekunder sedanI was wondering who convinced ARM to manufacture hardware. Turns out it was Meta.
- jeffbee - 4332 sekunder sedanMany of these words are unexplained. "Memory and I/O on the same die". Oh? What does this mean? All of the DRAM in the photo/render is still on sticks. Do they mean the memory controller? Or is there an embedded DRAM component?
- DeathArrow - 3387 sekunder sedanNow every product will have the AI buzzword in it's name, just like 25 years ago product names started with letter e, from electronic.
So we will see AI Toilet Paper launching in the next months.
- vova_hn2 - 7738 sekunder sedanI found this article extremely frustrating to read. Maybe I lack some required prior knowledge and I am not the target audience for this.
> built on the Arm Neoverse platform
What the heck is "Arm Neoverse"? No explanation given, link leads to website in Chinese. Using Firefox translating tool doesn't help much:
> Arm Neoverse delivers the best performance from the cloud to the edge
What? This is just a pile of buzzwords, it doesn't mean anything.
The article doesn't seem to contain any information on how much it costs or any performance benchmarks to compare it with other CPUs. It's all just marketing slop, basically.
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