Codex pricing to align with API token usage, instead of per-message
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- PhilippGille - 13723 sekunder sedanIs this not just about extra credit? So what's included in the subscription doesn't change - just extra credits are now token based instead of message based? (For Plus/Pro)
- mrweasel - 11451 sekunder sedanWhy not just attach a real dollar amount, rather than using "credits"?
Well, I know why. I just wanted to be snarky. It's just that trying to hide the actual price is getting a bit old. Just tell me that generating this much code will cost me $10.
- Skunkleton - 13795 sekunder sedanThe title is misleading and not in the article. This change is for business/enterprise accounts. Also, these are still credit based. The change is that credits now operate on tokens like the API rather than on messages as they used to.
- __mharrison__ - 13848 sekunder sedanFor the past month, I've been claiming that $20/mo codex is the best deal in AI.
Now I'm going to have to find the new best deal.
- fabian2k - 12370 sekunder sedanIs this something that is likely to also change the way Github Copilot bills? Right now the billing is message-based, not token-based. And OpenAI and Microsoft are rather opaquely intertwined in the AI space.
- Rastonbury - 13926 sekunder sedanSo Anthropic bundled CC with Claude.ai cuz OAI bundled chatgpt with Codex, now OAI is unbundling, IPO must be around the corner. Writing is also on the wall for CC usage based subscriptions now that main competitor effectively got rid of it. How are the Chinese models looking?
- m-hodges - 14378 sekunder sedanThe days of subsidized access is rapidly coming to an end.
- redml - 7569 sekunder sedanthis is indicative to me that the exponential is slowing down. tool and model progress was huge in 2025 but has been pretty stale this year. the usage changes from anthropic, gemini, and openai indicate it's just a scale of economy issue now so unless there's a major breakthrough they're just going to settle down as vendors of their own particular similar flavor of apis.
- adamtaylor_13 - 13763 sekunder sedanSounds like a death knell to me.
If I recall correctly, Ed Zitron noted in a recent article that one of the horsemen of his AI-pocalypse would be price hikes from providers.
- type4 - 6929 sekunder sedanI wish the Chinese would release a model comparable with 5.4 and free me from this pain
- AstroBen - 12960 sekunder sedanThings must be bad if they're doing this before their IPO
- squigglingAvia - 7606 sekunder sedanWhat if the goal was to draw us away from building our own AI data centers with their cheaper prices then eventually make us pay up for the difference?
- supliminal - 12615 sekunder sedanAny takes on how Codex compares to Claude? I mostly use it to run ahead, document, investigate and prep the actual implementation for Claude.
Gemini burned me too many times but maybe the situation has improved since.
- alkonaut - 13234 sekunder sedanNot only do I not keep up with the tech itself, I don’t even keep up with how to pay for it.
- convexly - 12879 sekunder sedanThis pricing only really makes sense if the users can predict their usage, if not people that use this heavily are just going to be hamstrung and are going to start rationing their usage.
- felixbraun - 9539 sekunder sedan5h and weekly resets remain, but the quotas are now ‘filled’ differently?
- anuramat - 12218 sekunder sedanfrom what they wrote, they're just changing how they measure the usage; might even be a good thing if you manage your context right:
> This format replaces average per-message estimates for your plan with a direct mapping between token usage and credits. It is most useful when you want a clearer view of how input, cached input, and output affect credit consumption.
- OutOfHere - 6902 sekunder sedanToken-based usage accounting is more accurate and therefore more sustainable than message-count-based usage accounting. It should've been this way to begin with.
- adi_kurian - 13012 sekunder sedanMakes sense. Right now the subscriptions are like Uber as I remember it in NYC in 2014.
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- flufluflufluffy - 11070 sekunder sedanwouldn’t it be “usage based pricing” not “pricing based usage”
- jamesu - 12709 sekunder sedanThe current pricing model (for plus) feels deliberately confusing to me, I can never really tell if I'm nearing any kind of limit with my account since nothing really seems to tell me.
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- kvanbeek - 13052 sekunder sedanSo migrate to gemini now?
- SilverElfin - 16375 sekunder sedanDoes this mean there’s no such thing as a “subscription” to ChatGPT for businesses? I thought they offered businesses a subscription with some amount of built in quota previously, including for the side products like codex and sora.
- gigatexal - 11412 sekunder sedangood. just like the Claude model. getting the pricing to be in line with costs is the only way this remains sustainable.
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