Google officially announces that ads will be included in AI Mode search results
- nelblu - 15343 sekunder sedan> We’re introducing more helpful ads in AI Mode
I always chuckle when ad companies say that. I have never seen a helpful ad in google search, but well I have been using adblockers forever so I would not know.I am honestly curious though, for those who don't use adblockers - what percentage of ads that you see are actually helpful?
- karlkloss - 15705 sekunder sedanDoes nobody talk abot the elephant in the room? Will the answers the AI gives also be influenced by Googles customers?
- lars_von_pidor - 13824 sekunder sedanThe only reason Google is pushing this AI crap is so that they can shove ads right into people's throats without them being able to use ad blockers (it's easy to block a web script but virtually impossible to block the text itself), effectively doubling their profits overnight.
- neuropacabra - 8114 sekunder sedanI never got into DuckDuckGo, but here we go. Defaulted from yesterday when Google made AI Search a default for Google Search. Well, I have been using Altavista and others so I can get used to another one.
- gspr - 108 sekunder sedanIs there any usable search engine out there that actually does just search?
- ablation - 16140 sekunder sedanWell, yes. I mean of course they are. They're an ad company.
- FinnKuhn - 15708 sekunder sedanI would have expected them to wait with ads until OpenAI starts first and users switch to Gemini. Google is probably the player that could afford to wait the longest with this and increase their market share that way.
- QuantumNoodle - 14306 sekunder sedan> With Conversational Discovery ads, your ad answers a person’s specific question.
Ah so my "search" results are going to be biased and at the mercy of the highest bidder.
Only a matter of time before someone will sell privileges of baking your ad/agenda into a llm model during training. That, or companies will fluff their own websites with verbose claims about their products that will get sucked into training via "organic” scraping.
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- Scroll_Swe - 891 sekunder sedanPerfect. Ublock origin will block it on my end and the rest of the sheep will help keep it free with ads.
- jdw64 - 14950 sekunder sedanI wonder whose bright idea it was to label ads as 'helpful'. Do Google execs actually look for ads first when they google a question?
- pllbnk - 6904 sekunder sedanI see where they are going but have doubts regarding the long-term success. Currently I use LLMs (definitely not Google) and search (mostly Google) to verify what LLMs say if I care by finding trusted sources.
Maybe it will work in the beginning until non-technical users realize that LLMs hallucinate very often (unless Google solved it somehow, but probably they didn't because they would have said so), they will lose trust in the results and go back to good old indexed search engines.
Maybe I am coping but thinking from my own experience.
- margorczynski - 1872 sekunder sedanBut who'll pay for those ads? Why would I pay Google if it just plops out some LLM answer with maybe my site as a source - which 90%+ of people will ignore as they don't care about it.
- summarybot - 1000 sekunder sedanmega deflating - i was just telling a colleague how openAI missed the mark by trying to mimic google search by incorporating ads into chat responses... and then google follows suit. do not want
- gsky - 14936 sekunder sedanMost ads i see on YouTube are outright scams. Google and Meta are so evil.
- cryo32 - 14342 sekunder sedanDear customers, we regret to inform you that the existing hallucinations now include biased trash.
- beej71 - 2067 sekunder sedanAh, well that was my first guess as to how they'd make money.
[Product placement in The Truman Show clip]
- matthewsinclair - 9882 sekunder sedanI know this is controversial, and imperfect, but the longer this crap continues the more right I feel about this as a solution:
What if we taxed advertising? https://matthewsinclair.com/blog/0177-what-if-we-taxed-adver...
- gyanchawdhary - 268 sekunder sedanthis is great for both consumers and businesses. The fake intellectual doomers who constantly lecture about how evil ads are, how everything is “gamed,” and how the internet is supposedly collapsing should probably sit this one out ;)
- schnitzelstoat - 15341 sekunder sedanI've tried the AI mode and it seems to basically give the same results as a ChatGPT query - which raises the question why use Google AI mode and not ChatGPT? (or any other of the similar models?)
- jesse_dot_id - 758 sekunder sedanKagi is great.
- boatsie - 3162 sekunder sedanWhere are the AI based ad blockers? Would happily pay a subscription that filtered all ads and captchas.
- flohofwoe - 9858 sekunder sedanSo the same thing that ruined Google Search (replacing "knowledge search" with "product search") will now also ruin AI results. Got it (good riddance though).
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- bborud - 2855 sekunder sedanAnd just when we thought Google couldn’t make themselves less attractive.
- dzonga - 9484 sekunder sedanwe r now playing a game without winners well maybe except google or any of the large tech companies.
small businesses & brands etc spend a fortune on these ads & yet most of them see a negative ROI. they might as well be gambling.
just recently Google was found to be inflating Ad-prices (so yeah the 'auction' is fake)
maybe the only way to win is not to play. & do commerce without ads like how it has been done since eon
- Eldodi - 15807 sekunder sedanIt will be interesting how hidden those ads will be compared to current Search experience or what OpenAI is already doing.
It's a lot easier to mislead a user with an AI generated ad that with a Search result IMHO, I'm betting on a huige backlash if they don't make it VERY clear that ads are ads.
- zeafoamrun - 13730 sekunder sedanI guess I'm used to seeing the english language being mangled by corp-speak but "creative" as a noun that doesn't even refer to a "creative" person (which also feels like a recent addition) really grates!
- netcan - 11155 sekunder sedanGoogle might be jumping the gun here... and making an innovators dilemma type mistake.
LLMs are an alternative to search engines, which endangers google's whole ad business.
"AI mode" search is a sort of bridge. It gets Gemini a lot of customers that otherwise would not have used an LLM at all.
They may get stuck trying to keep the llm pattern similar enough to the search engine that the adwords business working more or less the same way.
This could be self limiting.
- podgorniy - 8982 sekunder sedanThis brings disbalance into the relations between authors and search providers. Creators used to be rewarded with traffic in exchange for their creations. Now all that is captured by the google.
Freedom of the strongest caused reduction of the opportunities of the weakest on whom the strongest became the one.
- CalRobert - 8081 sekunder sedanThanks to timely action against Google's clear violations of the law and anti-competitive practices, we have a robust ecosystem of search engines with which to find content on the open web, and a wide choice of browsers.
- b3ing - 12893 sekunder sedanEventually no one will write reviews because ai will steal all the results and information and not give any credit or back links so they will have no choice but to lie and say product x is the best, if the company behind product x pays some money behind the scenes, no ad mention needed, the poorer companies will have to buy a cheaper ad to get mentioned along side the expensive higher ai-tainted recommendation
- binarymax - 9816 sekunder sedanA more surprising title would be “Google announces search results will be included in AI Mode ads”
- pelagicAustral - 15141 sekunder sedanWhat I am really waiting for is ads on my commit messages.
- cfontes - 1783 sekunder sedanBrace for impact...
- cdrnsf - 6073 sekunder sedanI've never bought anything from a search or social media ad. I can't imagine this will change that.
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- jslakro - 13494 sekunder sedanAllowing synthetic content to grow without limits will force the creation of a "synternet," an only-generative content network that can be accessed but will guarantee the classic internet to be human-focused, otherwise, internet data will lose value and the human incentive to surf will be lost
- avazhi - 224 sekunder sedanWell, time to go to Kagi, I guess. Been putting off paying for this shit for as long as possible but at some point I guess it's inevitable.
Any decent alternatives? DuckDuckGo was always been awful for me in terms of relevant search results.
- smurda - 4275 sekunder sedanThe "Don't be evil" Google feels long gone
- woeirua - 15301 sekunder sedanGoogle has to do this to protect their ad revenue. But… Anthropic doesn’t have to do ads (OpenAI might have to for their free tier) and if the ads degrade the experience too much then people will just abandon Google/Gemini for search entirely.
- dlahoda - 10197 sekunder sedanI pay premium sub 200usd for gemini(which gives premium YouTube too) and share it with family. Would google make me free from ads too?
- aykutseker - 11613 sekunder sedanThe independent AI explainer is generated by the same Gemini that writes the ad creative next to it, inside the same ads product. Independent of what, exactly
- kdavis - 5973 sekunder sedanSurprised pikachu face
- srveale - 12017 sekunder sedanThe main reasons I'll never get a neural chip are, in increasing order of importance: A. Safety B. It gives them a vector to beam ads directly into my brain
- spaqin - 14036 sekunder sedanThey really couldn't have waited any longer after announcing the shift to AI mode. Almost immediately. I'm sure the employees who worked on it must be terribly proud.
- cdnsteve - 13663 sekunder sedanAnd there it is, the vaccum of AI consuming your data everywhere, used to train their models all goes back to... ads.
Same things with OpenAI. Ads.
I feel like we're right back in the early 2000's Internet again at least they aren't popups, we hope.
But with these models being embedded into, literally everything, will your screen on your car start showing you ads before you can turn the AC on?
It's coming
- swiftcoder - 15877 sekunder sedan...was this ever in doubt? Search accounts for >50% of alphabet's total revenue - they are hardly going to kill the golden goose intentionally
- throwatdem12311 - 13101 sekunder sedanI’m so glad I use Firefox with ublock origin with the “ai widget” filter. It’s not perfect but you will pry it from my cold dead hands.
- _doctor_love - 12151 sekunder sedanPoor Google, there’s no money in anything else they do so they have to sell ads. How could it have come to this?
- sunaookami - 11053 sekunder sedan>"Buying something big — like a new fridge or a TV — can be overwhelming. People want to see exactly what they’re looking for and why it’s the best option. To make choosing easier, we’re launching AI-powered Shopping ads. Now, if someone searches for an espresso machine, Gemini will pull up your most relevant products and instantly write a custom explainer highlighting why your product may be the right choice for them."
...for me this leads to the exact opposite experience: If you advertise your product in such a way I make sure to never ever buy it. Same for ads on TV, etc.
- shevy-java - 13827 sekunder sedanNot long ago, some of those CEO clowns at Google, stated that Google is now an AI company. I had to chuckle, because I knew it was a lie. Google changed into an adCompany years ago already. That's why e. g. it killed off its search engine with promo-links and what not.
And now they admitted it AGAIN! "AI Mode" is basically an AdMode.
This also explains why they declared total war against ublock origin.
I think it is time the empire strikes back. We must get rid of Evil here - let's get rid of Google. This adCompany no longer has a useful purpose. All the "freebie features" (which are not free; ads pay for that) can be done by others, if people work together. We need no extension of more ads here.
- rashar - 14551 sekunder sedanAds and population control by propaganda are the future of AI.
GenAI in other fields is useless and only promoted by charlatans or the financially invested.
- wompapumpum - 15885 sekunder sedanPlease let me advertise beside incorrect content
- swader999 - 8582 sekunder sedanAre they included in the training too? Gee I hope so!
- esskay - 5483 sekunder sedanoh cool so googles gone from fairly useless to totally useless now then.
- bastawhiz - 9350 sekunder sedanYour friendly reminder to check out a search engine that you pay for. I use Kagi and love it, and you might too!
- Joscharb - 7531 sekunder sedanThe whole ads in AI services just seem to be silly. Considering how many of these AI companies are not making money, I understand the "need" to do this, however it will for sure feel bad for the consumer.
- anonzzzies - 14605 sekunder sedanSo every search will now result in an ad and/or hallucination?
- amazingamazing - 16007 sekunder sedanSurprised it took this long.
- doginasuit - 13449 sekunder sedan> No one can serve two masters. Either you will hate the one and love the other, or you will be devoted to the one and despise the other.
If humanity makes it out of the current era with our dignity and intellect intact, I think we will recognize that allowing ad companies to build our vital infrastructure was a tragic mistake.
- drivingmenuts - 4719 sekunder sedanGreat. Google gets to hallucinate information and make us watch ads so they can earn money while they do it. Sci-Fi authors wish they could get a deal like that.
- jackdoe - 12230 sekunder sedanGet the last ounce of milk from the dying cow.
The well is beyond poisoned. Almost anything I search for is returning AI generated vomit. I have not used google in weeks.
On youtube I use Unhook and only look at /feed/subscriptions, when I search I use before:2022. And am actually downloading what I find interesting, before google starts deleting because of the flood of vomit. Hard disks can not be manufactured fast enough to consume it.
Even HN is slowly becoming unreadable.
The internet is on borrowed time.
Show me more ads.
Its time to move on.
Try new things, make your own networks. Write your ipv6 address in the pub, under the table, in the top left corner, write it on the subway walls, and tenement halls.
Listen on tcp port 1492 and explain how to talk to you.
- adverbly - 13935 sekunder sedanKinda interesting how Google is releasing a big wave of enshitifications immediately prior to the Anthropic and OpenAI and spacex IPOs.
On assumes there is a strategic reason for it, but I'm not sure about what it is.
Anyone have a theory or care to guess?
- MichaelMoser123 - 4906 sekunder sedani happened to liked Google AI mode, even wrote a composition about that [1] Now it is going to be enshittified, which is probably inevitable.
https://github.com/MoserMichael/tips_on_using_google_ai_mode
- 7bit - 6344 sekunder sedanWhat AI Mode? (Glancing over to ublock)
- wateralien - 13773 sekunder sedanSo the web is now pay to play.
- OtomotO - 7663 sekunder sedanIs anyone (here, so tech people) still using Google for searching?
I've ditched them about a decade ago, when the results started to become worse and worse.
I haven't opened them willingly since then. Only when I do something in Chromium, occasionally, it opens, because I haven't bothered changing the default search engine there.
- Trias11 - 15473 sekunder sedanYeah, Lets build the next generation AI and slap an ads on it for a good measure.
- lenerdenator - 8262 sekunder sedanI've been using DuckDuckGo for about a year now and have found myself satisfied with the experience. This just reinforces that practice for me.
- csomar - 9490 sekunder sedan> We use the Gemini model to build creative tailored to that search, highlighting specific relevant features.
English is not my first language but I think this sentence can’t be grammatically correct?
- matthewsinclair - 10053 sekunder sedanThe enshitification will continue until morale improves.
- 1970-01-01 - 7615 sekunder sedanThat's one small step for Google, one giant leap for enshittification.
- dyauspitr - 13203 sekunder sedanFrom the page, “what are some top colleges…”
rAiNIer buSInEss sCHoOl
- creationcomplex - 11985 sekunder sedanThe naivete that this wasn't inevitable is almost endearing, if it wasn't from the same crowd who's building this shit.
- DeathArrow - 13721 sekunder sedanAt this point, why do we, the end users, need Google for? Sure, companies might need Google to display their ads or to use Google Cloud. But end users? GPT, or Claude or Grok do a better job searching.
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- _3u10 - 15070 sekunder sedanWill I be able to pay google to make its Claude code write code that uses left pad as a service.
- _3u10 - 15397 sekunder sedanFuck yes. I was worried about not having ads and google providing useful results again.
The last time i clicked on an AI link it took me to a page that wasn’t just more google ads or SEo bullshit. It was very disappointing I was looking forward to accidentally clicking more ads and instead found information relevant to what I wanted to know.
- field_reader - 14192 sekunder sedanIsn't this the whole point? Surely no one still believes in that stuff anymore.
- gadders - 9565 sekunder sedanThe enshittification has begun.
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