Gleam Is Now on Tangled

This post needs a bunch more context; right now it's only immediately accessible to people who don't need the announcement [1].

[1] https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/curtains-for-zoosha

First hearing of tangled, tried signing up and this first time user experience needs to be tightened up. Currently unwilling to sign in because of the friction I ran into using a password manager. From what it looks like they:

- ask you for an email

- send you an email

- ask you for a username

- except you cant actually log in with this username directly

- im being forced to learn some new social url protocol

- why does the auth flow pass me through a new ui/url that seems owned by the project but visually disconnected (eg, different branding/colors for the form)

- my password manager couldnt bridge the gap

I'm notoriously fickle about dealing with signup/login friction, but the project sounds cool so hopefully my feedback is more actionable than curmudgeony.

I tried Tangled and tried to run my own Knot, the problem I had was I'd create a repository, have it get created correctly on my Knot, but then would never see any updates to the repo on Tangled itself.

The main issue is that even though I had the knot with IPv6 connectivity, it only really reliably worked once I enabled lots of IPv4 NAT'ing and also created a dummy A record for the Knot.

This is a known issue - https://tangled.org/tangled.org/core/issues/494

For some context (which people seem to be wanting): Gleam is an interestinf language that is very tight and small. I met the folks from Gleam at the recent Ubuntu Summit and was struck by the talk they gave which made the point (about the design philosophy of staying small and careful creation) excellently. It's very watchable, and Giacomo later explained (when I asked) that he'd hand-animated every transition. Which re-struck me as a doubly good way to reinforce the point of the talk, which was itself small and carefully created.

https://youtu.be/E6_JqYMeNqs

https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/gleam-and-the-value-of-small/...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gleam_(programming_language)

I'd love to hear why they chose a VC funded forge over e.g. Codeberg.

Doesn't really fit the 'friendly language' claim IMO

I just tried out tangled for the first time and unfortunately it seems buggy beyond being actually usable. I created a repo but can't look at it because I get a 404 for it. The login was quite painful as well as I needed several attempts to enter my atproto handle (copy-pasted every time, so no typo). But I'm glad more people are working on git hosting options.

I have no idea what Gleam or Tangled is, so for me this headline might as well be an article from The Onion satirizing HN. I also refuse to believe any of these two things are large enough, like say Postgres, that one can claim everyone should know it. Surely writing an informative headline for ”hackers in general” can’t be that difficult.

if anyone has more info on tangled would love to hear. been looking for a decentralized git provider for a while. started self hosting but was missing the social element

Flink has acquired Cajoo

I'm willing to give Tangled a go too with a project, but feature set to bridge the gap still has a long way to go (no idea how long it'll take). Github outages (especially when just viewing repos!) are getting way too disrupting.

What's tangled? Which Gleam?

How does tangled compare with codeberg? Seem like a cool project, wonder how the migration story is.

Picture this: someone “moderates” your bluesky account for some unrelated reason and you’re no longer able to manage your own source codes…

The linked page creates more questions than it answers. Do we need to disentangle this?

Github is fine. I know it has issues, but for the day to day random OS gig it has never failed me.

Wish a git forge would support both Actions and Gitlab CI pipelines. Reuse community workflows for simple actions, default to Gitlab CI for anything custom.

As someone who has no idea what either of these things are, this reads like a satirical headline. I get an email like this about my company's myriad platforms nearly daily

How are folks doing CI on tangled?

If you too are wondering their CI story, it is based on NixOS:

https://blog.tangled.org/ci/

https://blog.tangled.org/spindle-microvm/

Curiously the link to the spec is broken: https://tangled.sh/@tangled.sh/core/blob/master/docs/spindle...

bubble-ass headline

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"federation" has a certain stink to it, I regret creating an account just now. I didn't realize it was that type of website.