Judge Rules Trump Administration’s Blacklisting of Anthropic Was Illegal
- perarneng - 826 sekunder sedanDoes anything matter if it's illegal or not when it comes to the current government? This is not a flamewar im interested from a practical perspective if things like this has any effects at all in practice.
- firefoxd - 12312 sekunder sedanThe law is too slow. It's like a horse carriage in the age of twitter. Why can't they expedite for special cases? Not even defending Antropic or any company. Just that if a tweet can cause damage in seconds, the law shouldn't be too far behind.
- bushido - 12758 sekunder sedanIt was a master stroke in international politics though, the US created an arms race towards sovereign ai, small models, and self-hosting - exactly like they wanted to.
(sarcasm intended)
- Arubis - 11802 sekunder sedanJudge rules horse must return to barn.
- frog42 - 8864 sekunder sedanSo can they now sue the government and recoup their inflated theoretical losses to be paid out of tax revenue? It feels like any outcome here will have no negative effect on the major players actually involved.
- hingler36 - 8971 sekunder sedanAt this point, does precedent even matter? Based on recent rulings, I feel like this exact scenario could play out again and the result would be the exact same.
- skeledrew - 11794 sekunder sedan> unlawfully retaliated
Can it be at all lawful to retaliate though?
- thinkcontext - 10704 sekunder sedanGood for Anthropic for standing up for themselves but think of the masses of companies that decided not to take the risk. The tone was definitely set at Trump's inauguration with all the tech execs front and center on display. They knew that if they didn't play ball Trump would use government power against them.
Law firms blackmailed into doing pro bono work for Trump's pet causes, intelligence analysts not able to tell the truth, energy companies giving up wind leases and switching to fossil fuels. And of course the constant shakedowns for cash.
- cubefox - 5679 sekunder sedanNote that this is a ruling on (just) one of two independent lawsuits, as stated in the article.
- replwoacause - 11080 sekunder sedanMost of what Trump does is illegal.
- bamboozled - 9670 sekunder sedanSo what if it’s illegal, what can be done about it, the corruption is so extreme there will be no recourse.
I hope I’m wrong…
- sb057 - 8416 sekunder sedanThere are several hundred federal judges, and cases like this can be brought before virtually any of them. As a consequence at least one judge has ruled practically every single action by the Trump administration is illegal. These rulings are typically overturn at some point in the appeals process up to the Supreme Court, which has mostly upheld them as legal.
- protocolture - 11489 sekunder sedanThere was a guy in the comments of the first article on this topic, who claimed to be an expert on this law and was adamant that the decision by the Trump admin was perfectly legal.
Not just for accountability sake, but if that gentleman could come back in here and outline what he thinks is going on that would be quite interesting.
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- glerk - 10485 sekunder sedanNo fine imposed on the Trump Administration corporation (doing business as the federal government of the US of A)? Does the current legal system allow Anthropic to sue for loss of revenue, reputational damage, etc.?
- trimethylpurine - 11297 sekunder sedanI don't agree. When anthropic contractually stopped the US government from using the platform for certain purposes that they could not prevent the average user from pursuing they created a de facto national security risk.
Prevent everyone from doing it or don't prevent anyone. You can't single out and cripple only one country.
I don't imagine that this was Anthropic's intent anyway. They were just trying to say that it shouldn't be used for warfare. Respectable, but short sighted considering that they couldn't stop other people from using it for that same purpose.
- jghn - 8052 sekunder sedanSince SCOTUS is stacked, it really doesn't matter.
Nördnytt! 🤓