San Francisco Onion Futures Company
- mimorigasaka - 15684 sekunder sedanThe people behind this are a real (if silly) student organization at UChicago and Northwestern campaigning for the legalization of onion futures trading. Sometimes they will aggressively hand out free onions to passerby on campus. It's quite entertaining.
They have a website also: https://onionfutures.org
- cwal37 - 17261 sekunder sedanFor those who don’t know:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Onion_Futures_Act
(which also banned box office receipt futures)
A fun thing is to go on FRED and make a graph with prices from onions and, say, corn to see the differences in volatility.
- Barbing - 17325 sekunder sedan> FAQ
>Is this legal?
>Yes, to the best of our knowledge. 7 U.S. Code § 13-1 prohibits "contract[s] for the sale of [...] onions for future delivery [...] on or subject to the rules of any board of trade in the United States." The San Francisco Onion Futures Company is not a board of trade, defined as an "organized exchange or other trading facility". We sell contracts privately to individual buyers, and do not operate any exchange or secondary market.
Performance art against that law?
Also November onions are an absolute steal compared to the adjacent months!
- shoo - 15637 sekunder sedanUS Department of Agriculture publishes a national potato & onion report (issued daily!):
https://www.ams.usda.gov/mnreports/fvdidnop.pdf
Readers may wish to skip ahead to page 4, where onions are discussed.
- haakon - 15207 sekunder sedanSince this may be a legal gray area, they should host it on a Tor onion site.
- gorgoiler - 580 sekunder sedanHard to take this seriously when it just lists “onion” as the commodity. The onion we extract from the ground is not the same everywhere. It can be either light or heavy based on the size and density. Light onion rolls more easily than the thicker heavy onion.
The sulfur content also affects the onion quality and price: “sweet” onion has low sulfur content, “sour” onion has high. Sweet onion can be used much more easily than sour onion, which requires more culinary processing to extract the sulfur compounds that make your eyes water.
Onion has been shown to have negative impact on climate, especially on air quality with people in confined spaces, but despite this it continues to be a valuable resource that is processed into many everyday foodstuffs: white, yellow, red, salad, and for specialist applications the highly refined shallot and pearl compounds as well.
Alas it seems likely that geopolitical upheaval will mean onion trading at ever higher prices. Brest Roscoff Intermediate (light, sweet onion) is trading over $8 a bunch (yes, crude onion is traded in weird units!) since the war began.
There’s also a bright future for synthetic. environmentally friendlier onion! Hydroponically grown scallions — so called “green” onion — have some interesting applications in the aerospace industry e.g. in-flight sandwiches and salads.
- Reason077 - 14775 sekunder sedanAre these contract prices really "per onion"? Or are they actually per pound or per kg? Up to $9.39 seems very expensive if it's really the price for a single onion.
I thought maybe they're some sort of special exotic onion variety, but I don't see anything to suggest that.
- joegibbs - 15715 sekunder sedanWhy was the law against onion futures passed in the first place? Couldn’t the same scheme be done with garlic, or sweet potatoes, or turnips or something?
- z-mach9 - 13705 sekunder sedanLooking forward to my 2 onions in November! Anyone have some good recipes?
- chirau - 15553 sekunder sedanIn an onion related note... is the "I sell onions on the internet" guy still around? I believe he was selling Vidalia onions.
- envoked - 9487 sekunder sedanFor those unfamiliar, there's an excellent Planet Money episode on how trading onion futures got banned in the 50s.
https://www.npr.org/sections/money/2015/10/14/448718171/epis...
- not-my-account - 17125 sekunder sedanThese onion prices are quite high! The novelty probably drives up prices. Too bad there isn’t a liquid market for onions
- onion2k - 274 sekunder sedanI'll take 2000 please.
- wheybags - 3031 sekunder sedanSomeone at the onion needs to see this.
- briansm - 12751 sekunder sedanThe Future's Bright. The Future's Onion.
- retube - 11170 sekunder sedanThese are not forwards, not futures.
- rich_sasha - 11303 sekunder sedanI get that it’s a joke, since onion futures are illegal. But isn’t trading all futures regulated?
- theogravity - 16789 sekunder sedanHow many onions / lbs does a contract represent?
- wocram - 16681 sekunder sedanThese are 1 onion contracts? Outrageous!
- dougSF70 - 11684 sekunder sedanThis is very good.
- charcircuit - 14920 sekunder sedan>and for hedging risks associated with weather and market fluctuations
Why don't existing futures cover this? Are onions unique in how sturdy they are? You can use derivatives of the weather itself even.
- ElProlactin - 16064 sekunder sedanCan we tokenize this or get some prediction markets going on Polymarket?
- leej111 - 16872 sekunder sedanMaybe I open a tor store for people trading these onions with one another?
- yieldcrv - 16073 sekunder sedanhell yeah, based
Nördnytt! 🤓