In an $80 motel room, a discovery to shed light on the origins of life
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- adrian_b - 6502 sekunder sedanWhile the research about Paulinella is very interesting, it has no relationship whatsoever with "the origins of life".
What this research is about is the origin of plants, which are indeed one of the most important forms of life, but the origin of plants is distant by billions of years from the origin of life and it is even distant by billions of years from the origin of phototrophy (frequently, but not really correctly, called "photosynthesis", i.e. the extraction of energy from solar light).
The ancestor of red algae and green algae (the terrestrial plants are descended from green algae) has been created by the hybridization through symbiosis between a unicellular eukaryote (i.e. nucleated cell) and a cyanobacterium, a.k.a. blue-green alga.
As explained in TFA, Paulinella is the second case of such a symbiosis between a nucleated cell and a cyanobacterium, which happened relatively recently, unlike the symbiosis from the origin of plants, which happened about a billion and a half years ago.
Because Paulinella and its internal symbionts have not been modified so profoundly by symbiosis like the red algae or green algae, it can provide information about how the early stages of the hybridization happened, eventually allowing a better understanding of how plants function.
- 2b3a51 - 16827 sekunder sedan> "He noticed that the scales were overlapping one another in different directions — in one, they overlapped on top of each other in a clockwise pattern, and the other was in reverse. The fresh eyes of a person who hadn’t been staring at Paulinella for hours identified a curious, distinctive trait. Were they looking at two different species?"
I found it reassuring that sketching what you see down the microscope is still part of a scientific practice. Also the 'fresh eyes' could perhaps point the way to a more collegiate organisation of research.
- alexpotato - 11562 sekunder sedan> Dr. Van Etten didn’t expect much from the water she had scooped from a random dock next to the highway
There are stories of companies asking their employees to bring back soil and water samples from wherever the employees go on vacation.
The idea is that this is a somewhat random sampling of locations that the company wouldn't have thought of on their own. Plus, it's possible that one of the samples has some novel chemical or biological compound that could lead to a breakthrough discovery.
- staplung - 20160 sekunder sedanIf you have a decent microscope and want to work on some citizen science that's directly related to the research in this article: https://www.vanettenlab.org/paulinella-consortium
- chakintosh - 12252 sekunder sedanReading this article with a bittersweet feeling. This is exactly the kind of work I wanted to do for the rest of my life while in Biology class at uni 15 years ago. But I dropped out and ended up in a completely different field (Design). But I still have that fondness of Biology in me all these years later.
- aduffy - 2429 sekunder sedanMaybe I'm getting old but man, motel rooms run $80 now?
- Bayes7 - 15175 sekunder sedan>"The first species of Paulinella was discovered on Dec. 24, 1894, in the sediments of a backwater of the Rhine River by the German biologist Robert Lauterborn. He named the genus after his stepmother, Pauline."
How can they say this without providing more background?
- grantsucceeded - 18790 sekunder sedanthis revives my recurring desire to get a good USB microscope. Good, to me, in this context:
a few hundred bucks
able to look at microbes
also able to look at less micro level stuff, like maybe the thing i'm trying to solder or fix
is it wrong to solicit comments/recommendations here?
- ____tom____ - 14018 sekunder sedanThey mention this event has only happened handful of times.
This seems unsupported. More likely is it's happened a large number of times, but has only established a lineage a handful of times.
- jll29 - 8250 sekunder sedanOnce a scientist, always a scientist.
Great reporting - reading this NYT article gives me a little bit of the excitement that I normally only get from reading Quanta Magazine.
- tpict - 24962 sekunder sedanI wonder what the author thinks steampunk means
- GTP - 25151 sekunder sedanI have an idea on how life could originate in a motel room :D
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- Beijinger - 21717 sekunder sedanThis was also interesting: https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-024-01046-z
- kova12 - 12327 sekunder sedanYou have been blocked from The New York Times because we suspect that you're a robot.
wtf is happening to internet these days...
- alpineman - 24051 sekunder sedanAll they needed was a blue UV light
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- sva_ - 18841 sekunder sedanI don't know what I should've expected, but I am a bit disappointed that they in fact did not find these organisms in the motel room.
- m3kw9 - 26387 sekunder sedanI thought they use built up gunk from years in the bathroom to discover new species, so they choose a cheap motel.
- realo - 17751 sekunder sedanQuoting the article:
"The team — brought together, in part, by disruptions and despair over the Trump administration’s freezes to federal science funding — then made an exciting discovery."
Apparently this is the new way of life for Scientists under the Trump regime.
Sad.
- oofbey - 24305 sekunder sedanWhy did they work in a motel room? The article kinda implies it had something to do with Trump’s funding cuts, but unless I missed something the connection wasn’t made explicit.
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- sevenart - 27822 sekunder sedannon-paywall (perm): https://archive.ph/QpBF1
- ransom1538 - 6864 sekunder sedan"Trump administration’s freezes to federal science"
Nytimes can't help itself. love it.
- tombert - 8471 sekunder sedanI just stayed in an $80 motel room myself and I also think I might have also discovered a new form of life in the showers.
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- codedokode - 21015 sekunder sedanSo $80 is considered a "cheap room"? How is a person supposed to earn $80 a day to pay for it and have something left?
Also, cells can have scales? Amazing.
Nördnytt! 🤓