Launch HN: Magnitude (YC S25) – Self-optimizing inference engine for agents
We're both software engineers and previously built an open source browser agent to 4k+ GH stars and 100k+ downloads. We increasingly wanted to run it on local models, but found that no inference engine worked for our use case.
Inference engines today all make a performance tradeoff. They are either:
- Built for batched inference on datacenter hardware at the cost of single-session performance (vLLM, SGLang) - Designed for broad compatibility instead of optimizing for specific hardware (llama.cpp, Ollama) - Specialized for specific hardware or models but lacking engine completeness (oMLX, ds4)
Plus none of them are designed for running agents locally. Sessions are long, several often run at once, and you still want to use your computer for other things.
Magnitude is built for maximum performance on your hardware and running local agents:
- On-device compilation and tuning: Kernels are written with flexible parameters that are tuned on your actual device before the model runs. This gives you broad hardware compatibility with the same performance ceiling as hardware-specific kernels.
- Focus on best architectures: We write our tunable, highly efficient kernels for the most popular open-weights families. This allows us to achieve and surpass the performance of hardware or model specialized engines, without forcing ourselves to over-generalize at the cost of performance.
- Dynamic memory allocation: Magnitude reserves only enough memory up front to hold model weights. As your agent sessions grow, the memory heap dynamically increases, and frees itself when agents stop. Your hardware can still be used for other stuff while agents run.
- Hybrid paged attention: We borrow the best ideas from engines like SGLang to allow concurrent sessions to share prefix caches, but optimize placement for memory-adjacency so single-session performance doesn't suffer.
Magnitude is fully open source (Apache 2.0). We built it in Rust, including a custom GPU kernel runtime and autotuner. We take inspiration from the best innovations in inference from academics (e.g. FlashAttention, FlashInfer, TurboQuant) as well as other engines (e.g. SGLang radix attention) to reach the performance ceiling.
Benchmarked against llama.cpp with Qwen 3.6 35B A3B (4 bit), 64k context, no speculative decoding:
Metal (Mac M4 Pro 48 GB) - 92% faster decode (30 tok/s → 57 tok/s) - 9% faster prefill (466 tok/s → 507 tok/s) - 28% less per-agent memory usage
CUDA (DGX Spark) - 19% faster decode (49 tok/s → 58 tok/s) - 23% faster prefill (2,033 tok/s → 2,507 tok/s) - 27% less per-agent memory usage
Magnitude ships as a desktop app that you can easily connect with whatever agents you already use (Pi, OpenCode, Hermes, Codex, and more). It automatically runs models on demand when these agents actually need them, and shuts them down after inactivity. Here's what it looks like: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qE8BWEZu7o
We're excited to push Magnitude further to let you run bigger models on the same hardware while continuing to improve performance. Our plans include:
- Expert streaming: store experts on RAM or disk and load them just-in-time. This lets you run models bigger than what otherwise would fit on your GPU.
- Kernel compiler: our current kernels tune a few parameters to fit your hardware. We can take this further with a fully custom compiler that automatically chooses how to fuse kernels and which implementations to use, to make it fit to your hardware even better.
- Multi-device utilization: Make the best possible use of all hardware on a system (CPU, GPUs, RAM, disk) by detecting these and automatically solving for the best model layout.
We'd love for more people to try it out and give us feedback. Feel free to comment here, we'll be around all day!
- lxe - 14464 sekunder sedanOn my local inference box I have a perpetual codex thread open in my llama.cpp checkout that I periodically ask to take a look at currently pending llama.cpp PRs, do some research on latest MTP, Dflash and other prediction or attention optimizations, do research on the latest model quants and finetunes, take a look at localLlama Reddit threads and just do essentially a sweep of the frontier.
Then it rebuilds latest llama.cpp, grabs the PRs it finds relevant to test against, and then it performs a benchmark and finalizes the upgrade and verifies what model, variant, or even a separate finetune that we should be running.
Occasionally, it performs its own optimizations and commits, which then gets superseded by pull requests and merged code that essentially validates the model's own optimization directionality.
- kmike84 - 14797 sekunder sedanThis seems to be a good idea. However, beating llama.cpp on speed is a low bar :)
I found it to be a good baseline, but at least on Mac there was always something way faster, and/or with better memory requirements - like you said, ds4, omlx, mtplx, etc. It seems if you use local LLMs for real, there is very little reason not to use one of the more optimized engines.
3 main failure modes I observed in the engines:
* Not using best available spec decoding
* Using too much VRAM for KV cache (e.g. KV cache used to take almost nothing in ds4, but huge amount of VRAM on unsloth/llama.cpp for deepseek models)
* Degraded performance at large context sizes - benchmarks at 4K or 32K are awesome, but at realistic 100-200K it's slower than some stupid baseline
- mncharity - 11843 sekunder sedanFwiw, top of my own pain-point list (I suppose given the first item, that's a pun) includes:
External/policy-based throttling for temperature control. Unthrottled, my laptop bottom goes skin-burn hot. But fixed compute caps can have non-linearly dreadful performance impacts in particular cases. Plan is a runtime knob, to replace manual limits-kludgery.
I'll use models which barely fit in VRAM+RAM, and are order-1 tok/s slow. So tool call step overhead can be painful - a world where `ls` costs tens of seconds. Plan is blending harness plugins with inference loop, for "no, don't stop - I already have the call result for you - just keep going" (and also some logit games).
- herf - 13600 sekunder sedanI have two NVIDIA GPUs (16GB+16GB) here, and it detects them each twice (says I have 4 GPUs). But then, it says most models are too big (anything >8GB?) and seems to run only on one GPU (5070ti).
Unfortunately even with my 5070ti, llama.cpp seems to be about 20-30% faster at decode, running as:
set CUDA_VISIBLE_DEVICES=0 build\bin\Release\llama-server -hf google/gemma-4-12B-it-qat-q4_0-gguf -ngl 99 --no-mmproj-offload -mg 0 -c 262144 -fa on --host 0.0.0.0
- c7b - 9487 sekunder sedanCool idea! Do you happen to have benchmarks for Strix Halo (AMD Ryzen AI Max+ 395)? I take it that Qwen3.8-Flash-Next is not supported?
And a more general question: does your engine detect and optimize for custom setups like multiple (possibly different) GPUs, eGPUs,...? Because if all you have is a stock major system like a Mac or DGX Spark, that's all you're going to care about, and there are a lot of highly optimized single-hardware engines out there that will be hard to beat in the long run. Something that automatically adapts to custom systems that don't have their own subreddits could really fill a gap.
- nateb2022 - 15720 sekunder sedanAny source on the benchmarks/methodology besides the image? There's a ton of variance possible in llama.cpp's performance depending on how it was configured. I'd also like to see benchmarks against MLX.
- msdz - 14307 sekunder sedanCongratulations on the launch, it looks like an impressive product and tool!
Q: From my (very, very limited!) understanding, I’m under the impression that part of the “inference engine inertia” is that model- or at least architecture-specific code is required for most, if not each new open-weight model coming out.
Assuming I got that right, do you plan on supporting everything vLLM/llama.cpp can do, such that Magnitude becomes a drop-in replacement for as many (economically/pareto-viable) models as possible, or do you want to focus on the best possible support for only a select few models/classes of models?
- MaxikCZ - 8209 sekunder sedanif fully custom compiler would find best settings for given setup, upload the setup to mothership and allow new peers to download it as good starting point.
Can it do all the shenanigans that allows to run qwen flash on 12GB vram over 40 toks like people seems to be getting in this thread?: https://www.reddit.com/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1wp7zyb/qwen38f...
- teabee89 - 13489 sekunder sedanHow does this compare to ZML's llmd https://zml.ai/llmd/ ?
- cedricd - 9975 sekunder sedanLooks interesting! Is there any way to skip or speed up the 'Assessing Models' step? I'm unable to download anything because it's been taking forever. I'm sure you could apply some quick heuristics or do a lookup or something to filter models. Or trust the user a bit more -- I already know which models fit on my machine. As it stands I'm stuck at that step and can't use the app.
Maybe have it run silently in the background and assess on demand when a user selects / attempts to download a model. It's not quite clear why all need to be assessed before I can download the first model to try.
- hypercube33 - 13103 sekunder sedanFrom your description looks like this isn't for AMD or Strix Halo at all? Also one of the things I'm not sure of but definitely plays a huge factor is the variant of the model you download - how does this help select the fastest version for your specific hardware / context size?
- kenzic - 15535 sekunder sedanHow long does tuning take (on an M3 MacBook Pro for example)?
- amirhesham - 15769 sekunder sedanOh this is so cool. Curious about the business model, too.
- paulgerhardt - 11634 sekunder sedanTrying to run this but keep hitting bugs. Can you open up issues reporting on your repo?
- sgtwompwomp - 15696 sekunder sedanThis is dope, is this kind of like Wafer.ai but for local models? As in a coding agent optimizes the kernels so the local model runs continuously better? Cause that is compelling if so. If it’s more simple that’s cool too
- p-e-w - 16167 sekunder sedanWhat is the business model?
- yolandac - 15290 sekunder sedandoes it allow us to run larger models that weren't possible before?
- ls-a - 3356 sekunder sedan[dead]
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