Nördnytt! 🤓.name Grandfathered
- giancarlostoro - 19366 sekunder sedan> After a long and expensive battle, news just dropped that Verisign is retracting its plan to terminate 22,000 domain names and email redirects. Although they will be closing new registrations for 3rd-level .name domains, all existing domains (including this website) and email redirects will remain indefinitely.
This was what I figured SHOULD happen when they did this. Allow existing customers to keep renewing, but nobody new allowed, if a tld frees up over time, reclaim it completely and sell it off.
What they were proposing should really be illegal...
- nticompass - 15784 sekunder sedanWHAT‽ I let my "first.last.name" registration expire because of the impending shutdown!
I did notice that my domain kept working past the supposed shutdown date, but I let the domain registration expire.
I'm so mad now! I assume there is no way to get my domain/email forwarding back :(
I suppose I could try to ask the registrar, but I highly doubt they can do anything...
(Edit: I'm not actually mad, but it was annoying to have to move accounts from my first@last.name email to another one)
- soupbowl - 8069 sekunder sedanIt is best to stick to the main top level domains. I bought into multiple 'new' domains and most of them caused me issues. A few of them jacked up their prices like crazy compared to when I first bought them. They can also be difficult to move between providers.
Unfortunately I am stuck in commitments on a few of these domains and just had to eat the cost increases, the rest I moved to .com/.net.
.consulting was the worst offender.
- derhuerst - 20567 sekunder sedanprevious discussion on the predecessor post, 69 days ago, 547 comments: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49550772
- mlefer - 6935 sekunder sedanI wonder why couldn't Verisign just grant most people the second level domains here. I imagine there aren't too many people holding onto 3rd level .name domains here and the set of people holding onto 3rd level domains that share a second level domain with someone else is probably very small, a few hundred at most.
For all the ones holding exclusive second level domains, just give them the second level domain. For all the ones holding shared second levels, offer a buyout and/or allow parties to negotiate with each other on a shared ownership structure of the second level.
- kwanbix - 19113 sekunder sedanWhy would they even want to close it? It is probably close to 0 cost tot hem. Or am I wrong?
- greyface- - 2657 sekunder sedanCan anyone speak to which specific registrars support setting email forwarding settings with these domains?
- slow_typist - 5803 sekunder sedanNicely done. (I moved a few family email accounts from .name to .net years ago because it was a much cheaper option and the .name TLD was still so uncommon in our bubbles it led to questions when they gave their email addresses to someone else.)
- damoe - 6534 sekunder sedanA few years ago I was able to register <first name>.<last name> I was so excited until I realized how potentially precarious the domain was. My established domain is <first><last>.<forever tdl>. I'm not too worried about it having a problem (although as some have mentioned here I wish we had more rights, as individuals, to this IP). So I keep the new domain more as a personal toy...
- Tepix - 20512 sekunder sedanVive la résistance!
Resistance is not futile.
- codexon - 7748 sekunder sedanThe title of this submission is misleading. This is only for "3rd level" .name domains. The title makes it seem like normal .name domains were being deleted.
- calebio - 3819 sekunder sedanKind of off-topic, but I wonder what will happen to .io in the end.
- origini - 8702 sekunder sedanI have bought my *.name domain a decade ago? Why was this ever a thing? Was there some limitation i'm to stupid to get or did one company just register some common last names?
- zamadatix - 16410 sekunder sedanCongrats to those wanting to keep their domains! I'm surprised they went with perpetual (well, as much as anything is) support, i.e. allowing renewals and such rather than just letting it naturally expire (the initial proposal was to immediately cease these records at a given date with no clear communication on how they'd be protected or not from re-registering the upper level domains or not).
- a1o - 19651 sekunder sedanHow does one register a domain under .name ? I can’t find info through search because it discards the dot no matter what I try.
- doublepg23 - 20222 sekunder sedanI've had a .name for almost a decade now and was not aware of it's history.
Shame I didn't register on my lastname .name , I had thought it was a much newer gTLD.
- hoppp - 3106 sekunder sedanCongrats!!
- eloto333 - 6838 sekunder sedanI want to edit this comment.
- nekusar - 420 sekunder sedanGrandfathered?
So as long as it was a white grandfather URL, it can vote?
And if your grandfather URL was black, you can't vote?
Seriously, use "retired" or "legacy". "Grandfathered" is Jim Crow and racist shit.
- xydone - 16790 sekunder sedanCertainly nice to know they would've almost certainly proceeded as normal if the concerns didn't blow up online
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- bilalabdullahi - 11138 sekunder sedanThey shouldnt this easy to take away tbh
- walthamstow - 13134 sekunder sedan> thanks to ... Jim who flew to Bali to make the case to ICANN in person
What the heck is ICANN doing in Bali of all places?
- charlieyu1 - 17116 sekunder sedanGood for them. I just wish I could register a new .yu domain…
- asdfasdkljfhkah - 10281 sekunder sedanThousands of .name owners nearly became .gone owners. Nice to see Verisign choose the one migration plan every engineer secretly loves: don’t migrate anything.
- kinabalu76 - 17721 sekunder sedanglad this got resolved, bummer it was thrown into question at all
- xyst - 10655 sekunder sedanI wonder how much the midterm elections influenced Verisign in this decision to bend the knee in this "David v Goliath"-esque win.
I was expecting for Verisign to take this to court, drag it out, and bleed the opposing party out. I suppose the judges that Verisign lawyers depend on did not get favorable re-election.
Ofc it’s probably something less nefarious, and boring. Verisign probably did some basic math and determined that taking this to court with their army of overpaid lawyers was simply not cost effective compared to just supporting 3rd level domains.
- toomuchtodo - 21490 sekunder sedanhttps://itp.cdn.icann.org/en/files/consensus-policies/kane-t...
Success is possible. Well done to all.
- sparkling - 16511 sekunder sedanIf you are into stories about weird and obscure domain happenings: https://eualternative.eu/guides/bulgaria-bg-private-registry...
- eks391 - 19009 sekunder sedanSo glad this happened. When I first heard, I assumed that all the folks wronged would simply be disregarded even though Verisign was blatantly breaking consumer protection laws (I assume. If it wasn't, those laws are incomplete). The fact that Verisign even tried still makes me upset though. It's really annoying what several companies will do as long as their hand isn't forced due to legal or social repercussions
- charcircuit - 7466 sekunder sedanIt's disappointing that only .name got this treatment. ICANN should grandfather all domains. The idea that it's perfectly fine for domains to just disappear is ridiculous.
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- dasd2ey2i7y3ihz - 14229 sekunder sedan[dead]
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- not2b - 8918 sekunder sedanI'm glad that the article writer got his domain back, but I wish we had a better term than "grandfathered". The origin of this term goes back to Jim Crow, when to stop Black people and newcomers from voting, many places in the American South imposed a near-impossible test you had to pass to register to vote, but also added a loophole: if your grandfather voted in your county (or sometimes your state), you could vote without taking the test. This was called the grandfather clause.
- dist-epoch - 19694 sekunder sedanSo, turns out Verisign is not the Devil incarnate?