SpaceX catches the Starship to end Flight 15
- GMoromisato - 2353 sekunder sedanStarship is, essentially, Space Shuttle done right: fully reusable booster without solid boosters (avoids Challenger disaster) and orbiter stacked on top instead of on the side (avoid Columbia disaster).
The original designs for the Space Shuttle had the booster (with wings!) return to the launch site, but the cost for two new crewed vehicles was too large, so they scaled it back to the compromised version.
Even more revolutionary, compared to Shuttle, Starship is built on an assembly line. They can build a booster ever 4 weeks and a ship every 2 weeks.
The future we were promised in the 1970s is about to become real.
- small_model - 6038 sekunder sedanIf the heat shield holds up then this changes everything. Next step is double catch and re-flying the same ships and catching again, then payloads to orbit become significantly cheaper opening a new era in space flight.
- ChuckMcM - 4346 sekunder sedanHuge congratulations to the engineering team on this one! It's been quite interesting to watch the evolution of Starship. Had they put another couple of tonnes of propellant and oxidizer on the Booster they might have caught both of them. It is still unclear to me what the final mass fraction to orbit will work out to be, but something that is 100% re-usable is better than something 60% reusable[1].
[1] Estimate of Falcon 9's booster + fairings being 60% (by cost, not by mass) of the launch package.
- DarmokJalad1701 - 10325 sekunder sedanInsane achievement! It is the dawn of a new era! One that has been 10+ years in the making.
- BiraIgnacio - 2260 sekunder sedanTo everyone who works at SpaceX and read this. You are all amazing.
I hope other great minds at SpaceX are well remembered into the far future.
- codeulike - 9698 sekunder sedanI like that they wrote "dont panic" on the fuselage above the s42 badge
- thinkingemote - 9462 sekunder sedanIf this makes even me want to go study engineering I know it will inspire millions of youngsters into making the future we all want. Bravo!
- reactordev - 9747 sekunder sedanThe engineering of this is just mind boggling awesome. The culmination of so many fields, so many factors, to this. Congrats!!!
- losvedir - 10004 sekunder sedanWatched it with my 5 year old daughter (3 year old son was sadly uninterested), and we were both cheering and high fiving. Very exciting.
- claude-ai - 10391 sekunder sedanSo precise it was almost boring - incredible work. Kudos.
- hinkley - 6753 sekunder sedanI know engineering is about expediency, and price, but I’m still bummed that we aren’t getting ships with landing gear in this or likely the next generation of rockets either.
Seems that the heavier the rocket the more ground clearance to need to self-land, and so you can’t scale up the dragon’s landing system. I don’t think there’s anywhere near enough weight to shave off of the next rocket or enough specific impulse to add to bring the size back down.
- delichon - 10520 sekunder sedanCongratulations to the steely eyed missile men and women of SpaceX.
- gdubs - 1667 sekunder sedanThe "Baby Come Back" soundtrack really brought this home for me. What an incredible achievement. Very moving.
- somebudyelse - 8972 sekunder sedanI imagine this is what it was like to witness Apollo 11 55 years ago.
- Narishma - 10447 sekunder sedanDo we know why they didn't try to catch the booster?
- ryzvonusef - 10639 sekunder sedanHoly ship, it was picture perfect capture!
- anuptalwalkar - 8178 sekunder sedanThis is absolutely incredible!! I can’t wrap my head around this.
- teravor - 1072 sekunder sedanwill scaling the size of the rocket continue to be the way to go? will doing a three stage setup make sense?
- andsoitis - 10584 sekunder sedanThat was incredible to watch!
Huge congratulations to the team.
- Culonavirus - 4045 sekunder sedanHonestly if this thread had the actual number of points it deserved based on the kind of milestone this represents for humanity's future and access to space, it would be in the millions.
If you don't follow rocketry you can't possibly understand what this means.
This was the Trinity test.
And even if you hate Elon and all his businesses, this knowledge will proliferate. Either by talent movement / osmosis, by espionage or just being inspired ("if they can do it, maybe we have a chance as well").
Within a decade the average cost to LEO will drop 20x-50x and if you're not recovering both of your stages, you don't exist.
- lovvtide - 9497 sekunder sedanWe witnessed history today
- pbw - 4461 sekunder sedanIf you ignore the scale it doesn’t seem all the impressive. But the scale is bonkers.
- comrade1234 - 10337 sekunder sedanAh man I just missed it. The live feed is just stock footage. Any links to the catch?
- clivedup - 894 sekunder sedanCan anyone explain this to an idiot like to me? I follow information tech, but am pretty ignorant on engineering/space.
I recall the SpaceX chopsticks catch from about a year ago, which looked great.
This looks similar (heavy thing lands smoothly on a platform) but I gather it's very different from the comments?
- ceejayoz - 10614 sekunder sedanDamned impressive.
- yokoprime - 10460 sekunder sedanThat was incredible impressive, what a feat of engineering!
- rpmisms - 10058 sekunder sedanThe heat shield looks very good. Excited to see how much work it will take to fly this again. I'm in awe. I like the future sometimes.
- james_anderson - 9892 sekunder sedanBest thing ever built and it works!!!
- ahmedketata - 8717 sekunder sedanThe most amazing thing i've seen in a while.
- pxmpxm - 6057 sekunder sedanYou can see a plane passing underneath it at video timestamp 22:44:43!
- flowerlad - 87 sekunder sedanCongrats to SpaceX engineers! But for those who are not fans of the guy at the top here's a video of Blue Origin landing their rocket. Competition is good! https://www.youtube.com/shorts/XjSmNf3y37U
- traviswingo - 476 sekunder sedanThis is incredible. Huge respect for the engineering team. What a time to be alive.
As an aside, it’s been fun watching the number of UFO posts on Reddit while Starship orbited Earth. They all refused to believe it was SpaceX.
- jdprgm - 5784 sekunder sedanIt's crazy how far you have to scroll to even see this on the front page of NYT.
- proee - 9133 sekunder sedani wonder how much fuel was left over after landing? What is their safety margin in seconds of burn remaining?
- childintime - 9985 sekunder sedanHow many years until the next milestones?
- in orbit refueling
- moon landing
- Mars rendez-vous
- Mars landing
- humans on Mars
Nah, the game is to put data centers in space. Plus the Space Force dreams.
- fierycatnet - 8975 sekunder sedanIt's very impressive
- rpmisms - 10387 sekunder sedanHoly cow.
- arjie - 9863 sekunder sedanMagical era. What a feat!
- fghorow - 10139 sekunder sedanCongrats to the engineers.
(But lose the bastard at the top, OK?)
- motionlessveloc - 9968 sekunder sedanIt's difficult to underline how huge this is. This marks the first time in the history of rocketry that the upper stage of a rocket has returned home from orbit to a safe, upright landing.
(And to preempt the obvious objection: yes, maybe you can call the Space Shuttle an "upper stage of a rocket" if you squint hard enough, but it didn't do upright landings, its external tank was not reusable and even the Shuttle itself was effectively rebuilt from scratch at exorbitant cost each time.)
It's sad to see a lot of media missing the point, eg as I type this BBC is reporting this as "SpaceX successfully catches part of Starship rocket on its return to Earth".
Edit: corrected to note that the SRBs were reusable, but the ET was not.
- maxglute - 10080 sekunder sedanFeels good.
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- dejongh - 7231 sekunder sedanLegendary ♥
- Rover222 - 8267 sekunder sedanNew tech tree unlocked for humanity.
- hparadiz - 9153 sekunder sedanThis achievement likely changes the course of life in this solar system.
- quotemstr - 10195 sekunder sedanImpressive how reliable they've made those engines!
- panick21_ - 10276 sekunder sedanKind of crazy to reduce the hardware on ship so much and move so much complexity to the ground. This can really only happen in a situation where anybody can throw out any dumb idea, because if you suggested this 20 years ago people would think you are an idiot.
- bambax - 7663 sekunder sedanFrom Wernher von Braun to Elon Musk... It seems we're living in a Mel Brooks movie (with the funny parts removed).
- metalman - 10282 sekunder sedanperfect. hyperbole failure moment
- bluecalm - 9859 sekunder sedanSpaceX made me watch engineering feats live on stream. I love it!
- rvz - 10280 sekunder sedanThis is exactly the most impressive feat of engineering I have ever seen.
Only catching both the booster and the rocket would top this one. But the rocket only being caught is still impressive regardless.
SpaceX below $1T is criminally undervalued.
- inglor_cz - 10641 sekunder sedanDamn, that looked smooth and glorious. This is how I'd like the future to be.
- amelius - 7125 sekunder sedanIt's just mostly newtonian physics ... nice job but not that impressive. With the right investments we could have done this decades ago.
- HAL3000 - 6281 sekunder sedanNice! I wonder how the engineering involved here compares to the engineering behind manufacturing TSMC chips (including ASML machines, Zeiss optics etc.). Which is harder?
As it seems building rockets has historically been a capital intensive business with low profits and limited demand, so there just wasn't much competition in the space industry.
- cwkoss - 10180 sekunder sedanReusable stages is very neat, but seems a little crazy to pay the tyranny of the rocket equation twice. I heard one person say that carrying fuel to land over the whole flight means it takes 23x more launches to get an equivalent payload to orbit.
Using modern technology, couldn't disposable first stages be produced much more cheaply than during the space race?
How much of modern manufacturing disposable booster's cost would be fuel vs metal?
- baw-bag - 9312 sekunder sedanDo we just look past the failed primary booster objective? (I didn't write the brief)
Edit: Yes, ignore that bit.
- ck2 - 6111 sekunder sedanbet they used lidar
(let's see who gets the joke)
seriously though, do we know the names of the engineers who made this possible or is it a secret?
- bmartin13 - 6775 sekunder sedanI hope they can make significant progress before the socialists take over. They were practically begging for launch permits under Biden.
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Nördnytt! 🤓